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I am having a little bit of trouble figuring out 50s wiring with 2 volumes and 1 tone.My understanding of the 50s wiring is that the tone control is wired from the output of the volume control rather than straight off the hot wire of the pickup.in other words the 50 wiring has the tone control after the volume and modern has it in front of the volume.Firstly, is my understanding correct? And secondly, when ever i attempt the 50s wiring with 2 vol and 1 tone, the tone control, apart from working as a tone, is also causing a significant volume drop off at the same time, especially if the volume control is not fully open.here is the original diagram i worked from.I didn't follow this exactly, i wired the volume pot input and outputs the other way round.I'm probably missing something really obvious, but i just cant seem to sus it out. Hi guys, thanks for your replies.Ok, you have seen the original Diagram I followed. So I then switched over the input and output wires on the volume posts to create drawing 1, This mod allowed independent volume control when both pickups are selected.(I have simplified my drawings so there is no coil splitter shown)DRAWING 1Now, the next mod was to wire the tone control so that the volume doesn't become muted when turned down, as in the case of 50s style wiring. My solution was to do like drawing 2, and hang the tone off the output jack in an attempt to mimic the 50s wiring by placing the tone after the two volume controls in the sequence, this is when i found that the tone was also causing a volume drop when turned down.DRAWING 2I am probably missing something really simple, but i just can't see it.
It's not like i am a noob with guitar wiring, i pulled apart and re-wired my first guitar when i was 14. To be honest, i feel like i should be able to figure it out but for some reson i can't seem to get my head around it.your drawing #2 looks wrong to me but for the life of me, i can't say it is because i can't figure out why.i did notice, if the leads from the cap were accidentally touching the ground to the jack, it would make a volume control.now, in my inability to figure it out, i did read a little, and i was able to figure that one of the components that make a '50's curcuit', as we call it, is that the tone control comes in at the switch as opposed to the pickup. (you have that in both drawings) and, what that does is the tone control is acting on the value of where the volume is set on the volume pot, as opposed to having an effect on the full potential regardless of where the volume is set. So, if the volume is at half then the tone is reduced to half as well. But what i can't seem to get is why there needs to be a switch on the lugs of the tone pot in the different drawings i am seeing for the 50's style. It seems they would operate the same to me. (also shown by you in your drawing #1 and #2).and I wanted to point out that I have seen a pretty complete setof wiring diagrams on this site somewhere.Me, too!
Wonder where? Hmmmmmmmm.Do-it-Yourself Sticky.GUITAR WIRING DIAGRAMS:'GIBSON Les Paul and Flying V Wiring Diagrams - Wiring Library'bigneil, There is a drawing near the middle of the page that addresses2 vol, 1 tone, but it's modern.
HOWEVER, you MAY find some useful info nearthe bottom of the page, has 'FLYING V' diagrams galore for several variationsof wiring. Flying V has 2 vols, 1 tone, yes?Not enough coffee yet for my brain to assist, just wanted to throw this outto add tothe confusion. I maybe off here, but looking at the post by gearhead, the cap move on the lugs suggest the output off the vol to switch needs to marry with the input of the tone. With 1 tone you need to series the cap with both outputs from the vol lugs that go to the switch. It also looks like you need to move the cap of ground.per your diagram your tone lugs are soldered wrong. Looking at it the left should be bare, middle has cap lead and right to ground.
The other lead of cap needs to go to vol lugs then go to switchalso, you would need to wire the vol pots with left lug PUP, middle switch/cap and right to ground.Again, I maybe off here. Just woke up!!!!! Thanks again every body for your input.After much head scratching, and trial and error, i arrived at what i thought would be the best solution.
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The pickups are a set of meaty humbuckers, I Used A500k log (audio taper) for the volumes and I have use B500K linear for the push/pull coil splitter tone.So presumably then the type and value of the pots will affect how badly the volume loss occurs?Willy, I have just been off playing for the last wee while and i reckon that the 50s wiring has brightened up the whole guitar slightly (could be my imagination), but this is a good thing for this guitar.there it is, the taper. Switch to audio and the useable range will have a wider sweep.With push pull pots it is a pain to experiment, but i would think 500k is the best for hot pups.